But Ancona stumbled after telling Hayes that he has had off-the-record conversations with police regarding the ongoing tension in the region.
“A lot of them are very frustrated with how the governor has sided with the criminals in a lot of instances,” Ancona said.
“Wait a second,” Hayes said, interjecting. “You have law enforcement talking to you off the record, confiding in you as a Grand Wizard of the KKK? You’re telling me that you have local law enforcement talking to you, personally, off the record?”
“I’m telling you, I have friends who know people in law enforcement,” Ancona replied, backtracking. “Let’s just put it that way.”